Proving God’s Existence
Is it reasonable to ask, “If God exists, why don’t you prove it?”
I think it is, and I think we owe the world some evidence.
I once believed you either chose to believe in God or not and the choice wasn’t based on evidence; it was just your opinion. I recently learned you can demonstrate the existence of God to people, which makes me wonder why we don’t do it more often.
After spending years in a church where the presence of God was absent, I went to a church where I began to feel and see unusual things. It didn’t take long to realize I was feeling the tangible presence of God. I studied the teaching of Brian Fennimore, who said you can bring God’s presence into virtually any setting. My wife and I began to ask The Holy Spirit to bring His presence into our living room and sure enough – we could feel His presence show up every time we asked. This was a radical thing to us.
I used to love debates about God’s existence. I once talked to a woman I worked with for 12 hours about it. We covered everything I could think of. She was happy to talk and listen, but at the end of the day, she was no more convinced than before. The apostle Paul said his message did not come in excellence of speech, but also in the demonstration of God’s power. (1 Cor. 2:4)
It was the power of God that was missing from my argument.
Words are necessary to convey ideas; we need them. But the argument needs evidence. Christians talk about a personal God who interacts with them; it’s the one thing that sets ours apart from other belief systems. But when we tell our friends about God, we often forget the personal experience (the evidence). God needs to show up and do something. Perhaps we’ve been taught that when our friend makes a commitment to God – something will happen then. I’d like to suggest you don’t need to wait. I love this story:
My wife and I went to her hairstyling appointment together. She likes having me along – she knows I’ll have a few God stories to tell her stylist, Angie, who is open to discussions about God and the supernatural. While she did my wife’s hair, we talked about miracles and resurrections. She used to work for a funeral home, so she’s familiar with dead bodies. The discussion was going well, so I told her we would show her evidence of God’s existence before we left.
When it was time, I told Angie we would ask God to bring His presence into the room so she could know He was real, and experience Him personally. I wanted to prepare her for the experience, but I didn’t want to coach her into feeling something that wasn’t God. I explained that we did this before with my mother-in-law and explained what she felt. I described what God’s presence feels like to me and my wife shared what it feels like to her. We told her it’s a little different for everyone.
I knew she suffered from chronic neck pain; we’d talked about it before. I thought maybe God would heal her neck tonight. We all stood with our hands out and eyes closed as I asked God’s presence to come. After about 30 seconds, I asked Him to bring His power to heal. We waited about 2 minutes then we opened our eyes and talked about it.
“Wow, that was so weird,” she said, “as soon as you asked God’s presence to come, I felt something like a force pushing me forward. I was thinking to myself, I’m gonna fall over, and I was telling the force hey, knock it off.” I informed her a lot of people do fall over when God’s presence is strong like you see at Benny Hinn meetings. She laughed because she thought it was people just acting stupid (I didn’t tell her I held the same opinion until recently).
Then she told us about her pinkie fingers. “I feel a burning sensation in both of my pinkie fingers. It’s not uncomfortable, it’s just really warm. It started in my fingers and traveled down the outside of my hands and into my wrists.” She placed her fingers on her cheeks to see if the heat was real. I asked if she has carpal tunnel syndrome. Her eyes grew bigger, “Yeah, how did you know? I’m ambidextrous, so I have in both wrists.” It seemed to me as though God was healing her carpal tunnel problem as we talked about it. (Not her neck pain, as I thought.) I’ll report back on this later if she is healed.
Time for discussion:
What is scientific evidence? In an experiment, we look for observable phenomena that occur under a given set of circumstances with outcomes that remain consistent in subsequent trials. This “scientific method’ is the basis for all research in the fields of science. Every time I ask God to bring His presence into my local area, anyone near me can feel (observe) a change taking place in their body. Furthermore, the sensations (observations) are nearly always the same. The experiment can be repeated over and over with nearly the same results each time, regardless of the geographic setting. I’ve even developed a hypothesis or a working theory about specific things that will happen, how long the process will take etc. I always explain to the individual what I’m going to do, and what things they might expect. I’ve never yet had a situation where the person reported that nothing happened.
Many people are under the impression that God’s existence cannot be proven scientifically. Even in the church, we tend to believe that proof is not available and faith is all we have. I would disagree with this idea based on the results of my experiments and those of others. Although unconventional because of the subject being studied, the results of these experiments meet the criteria for scientific evidence. God’s existence can be proven scientifically. And since God is not picky about who he hangs out with, it’s something we can all do.
My only goal that night was to give Angie some personal evidence that God exists. Mission accomplished. In fact, she learned a lot about God from her experience. She learned that God is invisible and yet, He can have experiences with us. She learned we can make a request for him to show up, and he does it. And we can ask for specific things like healing and he does them, too. If she thinks about it enough, she might ask why He healed her carpal tunnel syndrome – and she might run into God’s love, mercy, and compassion.
When we demonstrate to people that God exists by giving them an experience, we don’t just prove His existence, we show them his nature. Many people imagine God (if he did exist) as a mean, twisted, and perverted deity bent on making people suffer. I like watching God heal because of what it represents – a God of love, mercy, and compassion. When they are healed, it forces them to reconsider their understanding of Him. No debates. No long-winded arguments. God settles the debate in person. I love it when He does the talking.
The scientific method is developing a testable repeatable falsifiable hypothesis. Testing it multiple times and finding empirical results.
The problems with your experiments
1. FAR too ambiguous. Asking someone about neck pain or arthritis is like asking someone if they have headaches. The general population has had all of these symptoms (you as a health care worker I’m sure know that). If you are saying that a god or gods told you about a person’s problem you need to be far more specific because if god/gods know(s) and tell(s) you they wouldn’t be ambiguous about it.
2. Proof of feelings is not proof of god. If I tell you “zues knows that you need to lick your lips right now, but you don’t want to do it.” It’s not only suggesting something provable, almost 100% of the time people will want to lick their lips based on suggestion alone. Obviously it’s not zeus but me who created the suggestion.
3. Your evidence is extremely falsifiable and not suggested as such. As I remarked in 2, it doesn’t have to be god which creates headaches or neck pain let alone takes that pain away. This is a logical fallacy called begging the question. IE, you tell someone that have a headache and the only way to cure it is to pray which will bring god or several gods presence in the room. This begs several questions… first was the god or gods presence NOT in the room before you started praying or before the persons afflicted appendage? Without you there would their pain go away? Why won’t god/s heal everyone despite them asking for it? Why won’t god/s heal bigger problems (amputees, mental disorders, aborted fetuses, etc.)?
4. And finally (because you are quoting the Christian bible) how do you know it is your god/gods wishes to heal to people through you? The holy bible says a lot of things that are demonstrably untrue, how can you pick and choose which verses are true to serve your purpose of people recognizing you as a healer.
Also, if you and “Denise” want true proof of god you should ask him to do something tangible, like create a fire at an alter, or bring someone back from the dead, or walk on water, or call on two bears to attack children (2 kings2 23:24 – my favorite passage). Because I’m sure you (as someone who believes in the scientific method) also believe that these feelings that your getting could be related to something that is not a god or gods, but purely your mind creating feelings in your body (which I’m sure you covered in whatever training you did).
Good look in your future endeavors. Please don’t force your religious beliefs on anyeone. Whether you feel these things are powerful or not is your private business.