Not Sure About Spiritual Travel?
For the past 6 years, I’ve been working on a book that attempts to offer a kingdom perspective on spiritual travel. It has been without question, the most difficult book I’ve worked on so far.
I knew that before I could finish it, I would need to answer a few perplexing questions and I had no idea where to find the answers.
One of the questions is whether the experience many Christians call “spiritual travel” is really just astral projection dressed up in Christian clothing.
People have expressed different views on this issue. Some believe that all forms of spiritual travel are just variations of an occult practice that’s been introduced into the church. Others insist that the way believers travel is somehow different. A lot of us are still unsure what to believe.
Just two years ago, I wasn’t certain what to believe myself. That’s because no one had explained these practices in a way that allowed me to evaluate them objectively. As much as I’d like to trust the opinions of others, it’s a subject that’s too important to be wrong about.
It’s easy to understand why some believe that spiritual travel and astral projection are the same thing. Although its practitioners ardently defend it, they don’t offer an explanation of the differences. That kind of silence gives people a reason to believe that perhaps there are none. When someone suggests that the enemy may be behind “spiritual travel,” people often say “The enemy can only counterfeit of what God does.” That statement may be true, but it doesn’t resolve our dilemma. It merely tells us that there may be one form of spiritual travel that is used by God and another that is used by the enemy. It doesn’t tell us how to determine which is which.
Imagine you were told that you needed to drive to a distant city and you needed to cross 5 bridges to get there. Now imagine you were told there are actually 10 bridges you’ll see on the way there— 5 that were built by God and 5 that were built by Satan. All you need to do to arrive safely is determine which ones were built by God. Nothing to worry about, right?
If you’re wise, you’re not going to start the journey until you know which bridges were built by God. It’s too late to find that out after the bridge you’re on collapses. And that is the kind of problem we face with spiritual travel.
Many people are resistant to spiritual travel because they can’t tell if the kind of travel they might use is God’s version or Satan’s. It isn’t enough to be told not to worry, because the one we’re using is God’s version. How can we know with certainty what we’re doing is ordained by God if no one has told us what the differences are? (And if leaders never explain the differences to us, it gives us reason to question whether they know what the differences are.)
That my friends, is the question I’ve been wrestling with for the past 6 years. I have a folder full of articles where Christian leaders have discussed spiritual travel and astral projection. I’ve watched countless YouTube videos and still, no one has answered the question.
The problem, of course, is that astral projection is considered taboo for Christians. The idea of a believer studying it would never be viewed as a wise decision—even if it were done strictly for research. The reason there is so little understanding of astral projection in the church is that no one has been willing to study it and then tell other believers they’ve studied it, for fear of being condemned. The only thing the Christian community allows itself to do is to guess at the truth about astral projection.
I knew that if I was going to write a book that would help people understand this subject, I would need to settle this matter once and for all. And to do that, I would need to research astral projection.
So that’s what I’ve done.
During the past few years, I’ve read a lot of articles and books on astral projection. And I’d to make one point clear—I’ve never been interested in learning how to practice astral projection. I’ve never done it and I never intend to. (All you need to do is read a few of the more frightening testimonies of it and you’ll understand why.) I simply wanted to understand what people were doing when they projected their astral bodies. I took notes on how astral projection is described by some of its most well-known practitioners. Then I collected testimonies from Christians who travel in the spirit and lined up the descriptions from these two groups side-by-side. I made a list of how each group described their experiences and then compared them. In my new book I share those observations, which I think you’ll find enlightening.
I’m pleased to announce, by the way, that the book is now available for purchase. Let me tell you a little more about it:
I begin by addressing the most common myths and misconceptions about spiritual travel and then look at what the Bible teaches about it. The next chapter discusses the most common purposes for traveling in the spirit. I provide an overview of the spiritual world and then, because many of the spirits we’re likely to meet during our travels are members of the great cloud of witnesses—and because speaking to them is considered taboo for believers—I’ve included an entire chapter on that subject. From there we move on to the practice of spiritual travel.
I’ve devoted one chapter to the examination of astral projection. In a later chapter, there’s a side-by-side comparison with Christian spiritual travel. This chapter may be the one that helps the most people. I suspect that if this question could be answered to their satisfaction, more believers would allow God to teach them about traveling in the spirit. I think my comparison will put to rest the debate once and for all. (The list I came up with that describes the two practices is included in the book for your reference.)
I’ve included chapters on spiritual travel that happens while we’re asleep and while we’re awake, through what I call translation by faith. There’s a chapter on how God moves our physical bodies, supernaturally or what I call translocation, and a chapter on trances. From there we move on to the different places we can travel.
I’ve included chapters on portals, time travel, and visiting our heavenly homes. There are chapters on operating in the Courts of Heaven and the Divine Council as well as a few other heavenly places.
I’ve hosted many public discussions over the years and received testimonies from friends about their travels. Many of them have allowed me to share their stories.
If you’d like to learn more about Traveling in the Spirit Made Simple, you can check it out on Amazon.
If you’re not an Amazon customer, the book will also available soon through Barnes & Noble. And if you live outside the U.S. and can’t purchase the book through Amazon, it should be available soon for international shipping through the Book Depository.
Thx PM for doing the research in areas most other Christians fear to do. I see no reason why we should not be ‘scientific ‘ about it, if that’s an appropriate word for it. You will likely get a lot of opposition. Quite a few of them will call you names. But some of these will eventually come around as our Heavenly Father opens their eyes. In any case you have been and will continue to be a blessing to the Body of Christ.
Sounds so intriguing! Can’t wait to read it. I recently became a FB friend with a Steven Bancanz (you may know him) a young man who for years was known as an expert due to his knowledge and experience in all types of occult practices. He had a powerful born-again experience (pinned to top of his FB feed) and let go of riches and followers, experienced persecution from them, but has been encouraged by believers. He’s doing a good job on FB of intelligently explaining the differences and deceptions of the false system. Pretty neat guy 🙂
Thanks for mentioning Steven Bancanz. Will have to check him out, sounds like a true Christian!
Just discovered the real spelling is Steven Bancarz. 🙂
I’m new to spiritual sight and travel — actually haven’t done it successfully yet. No first-hand experience yet. (I’m reading your other book Seeing in the Spirit). Just a newbie question about the Kingdom of God being within us and the Blessed Trinity already cohabiting in us….. Can we just somehow transition within ourselves to encounter God and Heaven? Sort of like a journey to the center of our core being?
That is precisely how some people describe it.
This book will be helpful for people like me who may be having these experiences but feel like they don’t have anybody to talk with about it, especially in church. I’ve woken up many times and wondered if I had just come back from somewhere. It’s hard for my linear mind to conceive being somewhere far away and then instantly being back home in my body lying in bed. Can’t wait to read it!
You said in your book ‘When I’m asked by people who are new to traveling in the spirit where they should go first, my answer is nearly always “Go to heaven and meet with Jesus.” Many people have found that by ascending in their spirit into heaven they can meet with Him. Just about as often, they choose to meet with God the Father in a garden or in any number of other places.”‘.
Do u mean we can learn to get to a point where we can go meet with Father on our own desire and zoom we’d be there and we can talk face to face ?
Yes, Lewis. That’s exactly what we can do.
I want nothing but to walk and talk with God face to face like Adam did before the fall. What I heard Father saying was I could go home to see Him much like I could go home to see my earthly parents. And Father would welcome me home just like He would run out to meet the prodigal son to even personally bring him home. So thanks for letting me know that I’m not alone.
But then I recently heard teachings from a minister who meets with Jesus and go up to the throne room frequently that says I’m supposed to be ‘waiting upon the Lord’ and that requires me to quiet down, sit still, do absolutely nothing (not even praying with mind or in tongue) for months or even years, like a waiter waiting on a VIP customer. So like a good servant, the waiter would not disturb the VIP until he decides to communicate. And we have to do this because there are protocols.
So I am a bit perplexed as to which way I should follow.
PM have u heard this type of teaching and would u help shed some light on its validity ? Do u think they are just two roads that both lead to Rome.
Also u mentioned somewhere there’s an online community where people are passionate about traveling in the spirit (through the Holy Spirit of course). Could u point me in the right direction?
I’ve wondered about that same thing. The reason I said yes to the Christian walk in the first place is that I was told Jesus wanted to have a close personal relationship with me like you would with a spouse, close friend or parent. Waiting quietly for months or years to interact with someone you are in covenant relationship with hardly seems akin to the natural relationships it is meant to illustrate. It feels like a giant game of clue sometimes when a relationship should have a natural flow to it.
I am so excited about this book . I m just going to think out loud a bit . I think human beings are hard wired to be able to travel in other dimensions bec all have a spirit, soul and body. I think people that aren’t believers in Jesus can enter in but they do not enter IN JESUS. This is very common. I think believers need to be orthodox in this practice bec they TOO can enter in improperly, but with that being said don’t let that be a turn off either. The orthodoxy is to enter in by the blood of Jesus into and through Jesus (cross ) to the Father by the Holy Spirit. So rather than say and give too much attention to what is an improper ascension practice I think it is just wisdom to simply state orthodoxy.