This is an update on the battle to get 8chan back online which would provide an opportunity for Qanon to post again. I’d like to start this off with a dream that may be relevant.

In the dream that I had last night, an unknown person was trying to send messages. It wasn’t clear who the intended audience was, but the messages were being blocked. As the dream progressed, fragments of the messages became visible to me but not to the public. I didn’t understand the message fragments because they were written in Chinese. (This was the second dream I had in the last week where I saw messages written in Chinese that someone was trying to send.)

Why are the dreams relevant?

I didn’t understand the point of them until this morning when I was scrolling through my Twitter feed and ran across an article about Qanon published by Vice. The article contained the usual disinformation about Q and 8chan but it also provided some insights about the problems Jim Watkins and his company NT Technology are experiencing as they try to bring 8chan back online. (For those who are not aware, 8chan has changed its name to 8kun. When the website comes back online, it will use the domain

I’ve been following the live stream videos posted by 8kun owner Jim Watkins on his YouTube channel. I’m also monitoring the Twitter account of his son, Ron Watkins (Codemonkey) who runs the technical side of things. They were hoping to have the website back online by the 17th (Thursday) and they did have it live for about 20 minutes but it went offline and has not been available to the public since. On Friday, when people asked about the odd error message they received when trying to access the website, Ron replied with this tweet.

At present, it seems 8kun is technically able to go live at any time. The problem is the continued effort by their enemies to keep internet providers from hosting their website. Vice’s article explained the problem:

Jim Watkins said he was aiming to get the site live by Thursday, Oct. 17, but that effort failed when a UK-based provider he had been using, Zare, dropped support.


“We are not willing to provide services to 8chan or 8kun,” Zare spokesman Harry Beasant told VICE News. “We have had no contact with anyone called Jim Watkins. I can only assume the details used when they signed up were fake, which is why we were not aware they were on our network until informed.”


On Friday, NT Technology revealed a new strategy to try and get 8kun back online and keep it there.


In the early hours of Friday morning, came online briefly, and analysis of its traffic shows that it was being routed through the cloud computing services of Tencent and Alibaba, two of China’s biggest tech companies.


Ron Watkins told VICE News that U.S. company VanwaTech is now providing hosting services for 8kun, and said that he had no say in where they rout the traffic to and from the site. “I have no input in how they setup their routing, but it now seems to be much more robust than a few days ago.” VanwaTech’s CEO Nick Lim confirmed to VICE News that his company was providing services to 8kun but he was not aware of the issues surrounding 8chan.

The article goes on to deride Watkins for allowing 8kun to be routed through cloud computing services located in China.

“All posts, and all IP information, everything, are going to be sent directly to the Chinese Communist Party because that is a requirement of a Chinese ISP,”

And that makes me wonder if my dreams weren’t showing me that Q’s messages (the unknown person in the dream) are going to be routed through China (a country that speaks Chinese). And that Q is willing to post again, but his messages are being blocked by those who are keeping 8kun offline.

It seems that for now, when it comes back online 8kun will be hosted by VanwaTech (unless they cave in to political pressure). In his latest broadcast (see the video below), Jim Watkins explained their problems and the solutions they’re considering, including the possibility of forgoing traditional internet hosting in favor of a distributed hosting model that would have users run a copy of 8kun on their computers (a concept similar to blockchain technology).

When 8kun is back online, I’ll let you know, and of course, if Q returns, I’ll have another update. As far as I can tell, websites and mobile apps that display Q’s posts will still deliver them once the software is updated to pull data from the new 8kun website.

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