8chan, 8Kun, Jim Watkins, Qanon
Hatred of 8chan and Q Leads to Libel Litigation
During the last two years, the mainstream media have collectively published hundreds (perhaps thousands) of articles about Qanon. Not one mainstream article, to my knowledge, has had anything positive to say about Q or his followers. Most articles portray Q as a devious prankster or a group of internet trolls and his followers as delusional racists fanatically obsessed with seeing pedophiles jailed. Critics have become so obsessed with destroying Q that they sometimes overstep the law. And now one man is going to court over his hatred of Q and 8chan.
Fredrick Brennan is the founder of the internet message board 8chan where Qanon posts. Jim Watkins assumed ownership of 8chan in 2015 and Brennan stayed on as an employee after the transfer. In 2018, Brennan terminated his employment with Watkins over irreconcilable differences. The summer of 2019 brought a media blitz against Q and 8chan. After a series of mass shootings, the media made repeated accusations (some of which have proven to be false) that 8chan promoted hate speech and violent extremism. The media’s articles were weaponized in an attempt to pressure companies that provide tech service to 8chan to cancel their service agreements. On August 5th, the plan to deplatfom 8chan succeeded. Cloudflare withdrew its service to 8chan, leaving them open to DDoS attacks. The website has been offline ever since.
On September 5th, Jim Watkins testified before Congress and explained the measures he was taking to deal with messages that endorse violence. (People have asked if a copy of Jim’s testimony might be obtained through FOIA, but that is not possible. Congress is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. The release of the transcript is at the discretion of the committee, and at this time, they have not made it public). Fredrick Brennan took to Twitter on Septemeber 6th and 7th and attacked Watkins claiming, among other things, that he was going senile.
Jim wearing a QAnon pin to Congress was truly awful. Either:
❶ Jim is wearing the pin cynically. He knows Q is a LARP, but is wearing it to trick Qultists into donating to him.
❷ Jim is going senile and believes Q is real to some degree and is wearing it as a talisman. https://t.co/GBixkEB1Qn— Fredrick Brennan ???✝ (@HW_BEAT_THAT) September 7, 2019
A month later, Brennan explained his motive for the attacks against Watkins and 8chan. He “has a vendetta with them.” (Brennan is also prone to posting tweets that are critical of Q and his followers.)
I don’t want 8chan to come back.
Mostly for personal reasons.
I think its admins are terrible incompetent people. I have a vendetta with them.
I’m not against other imageboards, only ones they run with names like 8chan. Honest enough? https://t.co/zuhn4GXdY9
— Fredrick Brennan ???✝ (@HW_BEAT_THAT) October 7, 2019
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation. Slander is spoken defamation. Libel is written defamation. In most jurisdictions, a case for defamation is based on two things: A false statement of fact, and malicious intent. In two tweets, Brennan made a false statement of fact (the claim that Watkins was going senile) and demonstrated maliciously intent (“I have a vendetta with them”). Watkins and Brennan live in the Philippines where defamation is a criminal matter. Watkins filed a criminal complaint with the local authorities. The complaint alleges that Brennan used the El Paso shooting spree to attack Watkins’ reputation and defame his character. (The full criminal complaint can be viewed here.)
Those who are connected to 8chan and those who support Q (including myself) have been defamed by internet trolls and the media for years and no one has pushed back. Watkins’ criminal complaint is a shot across the bow. A warning to all that false claims intended to harm us and silence our voices will not be tolerated. Though we greatly value freedom of speech and freedom of the press, both have limitations. Defamation should not be accepted by any community. When it is, bullies are emboldened to bring more attacks. The abusive tactics used by the press and social media companies are the reason why Devin Nunes filed lawsuits against Fusion GPS, McClatchy and Twitter. Nunes understands that until someone holds abusive people accountable for their behavior, the abuse will continue.
There are others in our community who probably have grounds for defamation lawsuits. The maker of Q Drops had their app pulled from the Apple store after NBC published an article by Ben Collins which made false statements about Q. The tone of the article made it clear that NBC’s intent was to get the app pulled from the Apple and Google stores. They intended to cause harm (defamation) to a legitimate business. Many of the claims the media make about Q are false and reporters know they are false. Making a statement of fact that you know or suspect is not true in an attempt to harm someone is the definition of defamation. (The maker of Q Alerts also had their app removed from the Apple store.)
Thinking that the first amendment allowed them to say anything they wanted, those who oppose Q and 8chan have had a good run with their libelous statements, but it seems the tide may have turned. Will they finally be held accountable? It will depend on how we, as a community, respond to their behavior.
(I have more articles in the works on this subject so stay tuned.)
37 Comments
Cecil
Does your website have a list of articles such as this one?
Praying Medic
At the bottom of the page, there is a category menu. Click on it and find the category you’re interested in (8chan, qanon, etc). Click on the category and it will bring up a list of related articles.
Kathy Butler
God bless you sir! You are a blessing! Thanks for keeping us informed!
W. Cameron MacDonald
Thanks for all you do.
Connie
Thank you for everything you put out in the world, I admire your honesty and way with words! Keep teaching and telling the ways of the spirit!
Debbie Motto
Loved this article…written so clearly even I could understand! ?? Thank you for responding to God’s call in becoming a writer! ??
Barbara McKinney
You have bridged the gap between sense and nonsense and my heartfelt thanks to you and prayers always for you and Denise and the team.
Patricia Hurst
You are my most favorite voice against what is going on! I believe you to be not only very spiritual but very highly informed! So grateful for all you do! Sending blessings. Patricia
Susan
Much respect Dave. This is a great piece for sharing with people – especially those who fear 8chan was curating content from bad actors. The House Committee should release the hearing transcript. Jim Watkins did post about his testimony on Twitter I believe? FYI to commenters here: Jim Watkins YT channel is enjoyable and interesting, check it out!
Happy Veterans Day.
REBECCA LEHMAN
It feels so daunting to try and fight these people! I am a 65 year old single woman, business owner who lives in California! I have never in my life seen such a systematic attack against conservative values and freedom! I am continually praying American people will wake up and fight back! It’s all I can do! I post and share and pray! Let freedom ring! Wake up! Wake up! O Sleepers!
Marya
Is it possible to post where we can find the Q posts now? It is probably common knowledge but I’m not finding it (not a techie). Also, wondering if you might make a list of twitter accts you find to be credible info sources. BurnedSpy34 was taken down, Joe Masepoes/StormIsUponUs ceased posting, CJTruth taking a break, InTheMatrix mentions he may be disappeared off twitter. Thankfully, I am on your email list, also email list of Martin Geddes so I trust they will not be affected by the censorship underway.
Thank you so very much for all your amazing and dedicated work–so greatly valued and appreciated!
Praying Medic
I have a publicly available list of Q twitter accounts that can be found on my Twitter page under “lists”
Marya
“Lists” isn’t an option when I am on your twitter page–tweet, tweets and replies, media and likes are the only options. Is the list you have anywhere on your website? Thank you!
Praying Medic
Go here: https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/lists
Marya
Thank you!!!
Jeff Rabon
That’s awesome that Jim filed a criminal complaint! It serves as a good role model/template for other people to follow. The conservative Judges that Trump is appointing will uphold the law. “Thou shalt not bear false witness” — Exodus 20:16 <== "It's going to be BIBLICAL." — Q drop #3565
Anonymous
Is there any way to change Q to cue or cued in … although 1st amendment is the bigger truth as well . Yet the truth may need other measures to get it out
Randall & Mary Grubbs
I’m sure there are a lot of people who would donate money to pay attorney fees for filing lawsuits for libel.
Pat Davis
No need for lawyers if you’re willing to do some studying of legal procedures! I’ve gone to court in pro per and I won both cases — one as a plaintiff and one as a defendant. Find me on Facebook — suzuko804 — and send a private message for info on DIY legal help!
Vince Piotet
As usual, these comments bring credible new information that I do not often find elsewhere.
I love it when presented with truth regarding current events
thanks to crusaders such as you two !!!
Bravo for all you do, dear Prayer Medic and dear Denise.
Your articles are spot-on and you teach well, whether
the subject is Q or something you personally pioneered successfully
May many more “Bereans” wake up and
smell the coffee aroma !
Linda Traylor
Thank you for continuing to share this with us. As the other woman said, I am over 80 and can only read and share and speak up and pray; but all that I do. Good to see those who can fighting back. We cannot let this go one and on as it does with our President. Please, continue to keep us informed and we will continue to share. I don’t Tweet, but I do have a Fb group that hears most of what I learn from you. They all support the President and all those who support him. They know your name and pray for you as well.
Mike B.
At this point, Many/Most of these individuals this freaked over a LAPR (in their minds) are probably blackmailed at some level. Let them blow about in the political wind for now. When the first wave of indictments hit, they will have much bigger problems then they’re supposed LARP. Right before the TET offensive in PLATOON “Everybody gotta die some time”
Scott
A defamation suit is based on more than just the two things you listed. There are at least four or five items that must be met. Here’s a link to information you may find helpful. Be sure to see the exemptions at the end of the article including the one about a public person.
https://www.hg.org/defamation.html
Since the complaint you cited is being filed in a foreign country, it obviously will have different rules. If the two rules you cite were enough for a defamation suit then every one of us could be hauled into court for comments made on Twitter or any other online board.
Jeff Rabon
Interesting reference. Thanks.
Anonymous
Hey, is anyone else finding their cortisol levels rising along with flashes of rage about what these deep-staters are doing to suppress the truth? Sometimes I need to step back a bit because it’s been affecting my blood pressure. How do we cope with the injustice?
Martin
Typos in [square] brackets, Dave:
Those who are connected to 8chan and those who support Q (including myself) have been defamed [my] internet trolls…
Nunes understands [than] until someone…
(Thanks for keeping us informed!)
Pat Davis
And in previous article is an instance of “Barr” spelled with just one r.
Praying Medic
ThankQ!
Pat Davis
“The possibilities for declassification are endless since (Bar) has complete authority and discretion.”
Anon
Could it be intentional?
Vivian Goss
Thank you for keeping us informed!
Richard (Rick) Clarke
I suggest that you try the Courts of Heaven before you turn to a lesser authority, a lesser God.
Praying Medic
Message received.
Hata
Are you aware of Robert Henderson and/ or Jeanette Strauss?
drdeb
I think The World of you, Praying Medic! Still learning how to pray with the authority of Jesus Christ via your book “Divine Healing Made Simple.” God Bless You!
Teresa Eaton
Thank you, PM. ???
D B Walker
Thankful for you, yielded for YHVH Kingdom Authority. Glad to have found you after the shut down. Still trying to locate a female, 40’s, gave videos, used a lot of scripture and moon/star references. Do you have a reference?