The Long and Secret Info Wars Against Q
On April 29th, 2018, Q highlighted a growing problem in the group of people that followed his posts.
A Reddit researcher who goes by the name SerialBrain2 shared his observations about Alex Jones and his InfoWars associates suggesting that in this post, Q was drawing attention to them. In a lengthy message containing links to videos and Twitter posts, SerialBrain2 explained this theory. The thread was deleted by Reddit, but a web archive is available here. Q reposted SerialBrain2’s message confirming that he had correctly identified the problem.
I’ll summarize the relevant parts of SerialBrain2’s message in this article.
In December of 2015, Donald Trump appeared on the show InfoWars. The mainstream media ridiculed Trump for appearing on a show devoted to conspiracy theories. Alex Jones saw Trump’s appearance as a stamp of approval on his platform and claimed it was a key to Trump’s election win in 2016.
Jones’ followers took it as a sign that Trump identified with InfoWars and their views. No one but Donald Trump knew that Q’s mission would soon be launched. I suspect that he may have been trying to win the show’s followers to Q’s mission, once it went operational. Trump knew how important it would be to reach this audience.
Q began posting on 4chan in October of 2017. Because the posts are somewhat cryptic, they require interpretation and analysis. Several YouTube commentators began providing decodes of Q’s posts. One of them was Jordan Sather. On December 8th, 2017, Infowars invited Sather on the show to talk about Q. Even though Jordan’s expertise is secret space programs, free energy, and related matters, he’d been following Q closely and his background made him one of the better Q decoders. Roger Stone interviewed him. Here’s a short clip from the interview highlighted by Serialbrain2.
After some discussion of Q, Stone made the following comment which SerialBrain2 identified as a tactical use of confusion.
Stone subtly implied that Q might be a computer program (a bot) or a group of people who were hired to limit Infowars’ reach and cut them off from their followers. Infowars saw themselves as stakeholders in President Trump’s election and they weren’t going to lose their influence to some bot playing around on 4chan.
On December 24th, 2017, Alex Jones discussed Q for the first time on his show.
Jones started talking about Q but immediately switched topics. Rather than discuss Q, he told his audience about the intel sources InfoWars has access to. He claimed that the information Q provided was not unique (he already had it) and not terribly important since it came from private agencies and not the Government. Further, he claimed to have his own intelligence insider named Zak, who could provide information comparable to Q. The tactic used in this segment as highlighted by SerialBrain2 was replacement.
One technique employed by Jones was to negate the relevance of the subject under discussion. He acknowledged Q for the benefit of his audience but then downgraded Q’s importance.
On January 5th, 2018, Jones invited his so-called intelligence insider Zak to appear on his show. The title of the episode was, “High-Level Intelligence Source Confirms QAnon Is Real.” Here’s a short clip.
Despite the title of the episode, the only mention of Q came at the ten-minute mark when Jones said, as he went to a commercial break, “We’ll be right back on the other side of the break with our real Qanon. This isn’t a game. This is not a drill. This is not make-believe. We are not LARPing here. This is not live-action role-playing. This isn’t fantasy land. This is the real world. Zak is a real high-level intelligence source.”
Compare his remarks with these posts from Q.
Apparently, Jones had been exploring the board and decided to ridicule Q with his own phrases, while asking his audience to trust Zak—his real Qanon insider who isn’t a LARP from fantasy land. Unlike Q, Zak was a flesh and blood person they could see and talk to. This approach to discrediting Q was similar to the technique used by Roger Stone. Infowars needed to convince their audience that Q could not be trusted.
The following day, January 6th, 2018, to support the idea that InfoWars had a better version of Q, Owen Shroyer aired a segment titled: “Infowars Own #QAnon Discusses Deep State.”
InfoWars had to implement their strategy with caution. They didn’t want to suffer backlash from their followers, who were becoming more interested in Q. This subtle strategy required the use of subconscious manipulation techniques.
Jones realized his attempts to replace and ridicule Q were not working. SerialBrain2, theorized that Dr. Jerome Corsi, the Infowars Washington Correspondent, would be used next to infiltrate the movement and steer it in the wrong direction.
On January 28th, 2018, Infowars launched their own Q decoding operation featuring Corsi, who teamed up with the anons that host the YouTube channel Patriot’s Soapbox. The description in the first broadcast hinted at InfoWars’ real agenda: “Dr. Jerome Cors reveals what Qanon is” (Not who but what) “and how it will be used against the people.”
Corsi spent a couple of hours a day going over the latest Q posts on a daily broadcast. I listened to him for a while, but his approach to decoding was weak. He did very little research. Most days, he would simply ask anons what their own research had uncovered. He was slow in his approach to decoding, covering only a couple of posts in an hour. He sometimes took his interpretations in what I thought was an obviously wrong direction.
In 2018, Q began posting about Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who had been living in the Ecuadoran embassy in London under political asylum. Corsi claimed that Q’s posts suggested that Assange was going to be freed by a specific date. Q posted nothing that would give us that impression, but Corsi occasionally made claims that seemed destined for disappointment.
On December 9th, 2017, while President Trump visited Asia, Q posted a photograph that appeared to have been taken from an airplane flying over the ocean. . The filename was _AF1_5A_2.png.
Jerome Corsi made a big deal about this image. He insisted that it proved Q was a member of Trump’s inner circle and that he must have been aboard Air Force One when the photo was taken. It was an important marker that would be used months later.
On April 29th, 2018, Q posted a notice about people in the movement who had questionable motives:
On his next broadcast, Jerome Corsi went ballistic. He assumed Q had called him out (though no one was mentioned by name). Corsi had been promoting his latest book, Killing the Deep State. He interpreted Q’s message as a statement that no true patriot would dare to make money off their involvement in the movement. Corsi fired back, calling Q a communist. He claimed that both the board administrator (Codemonkey) and Q had been compromised. This clip from Corsi’s May 5th, 2018 broadcast shows his change of attitude.
Corsi didn’t say Q was never a legitimate insider but that the original Q had been replaced by a deep state actor. A few days later, Q responded.
Q pointed out that he did not mention any names when he said people had joined the movement to make a profit. The guilty parties exposed themselves. He confirmed that bad decodes and false claims regarding access to sealed indictments were made to intentionally mislead people.
Q has often stated his desire for unity, but at times, certain behavior must be called out, and wrong motives revealed when the individuals behind them pose a threat to the movement.
Two days later, Q elaborated on why he exposed the agenda of Corsi and Infowars.
Q said Corsi and Infowars intended to destroy the integrity of his message by providing false decodes. They then planned to bring Q followers over to their platform. By making simple statements without naming names, Q got the guilty parties to reveal themselves. Interestingly, Q anticipated the attack on the movement and decided to call out the troublemakers on his timeframe to get them to accelerate their timetable. This would limit damage to the movement, which was expanding rapidly. Q wanted the matter to be dealt with before it grew any larger and stressed that it was time to put aside differences, bring healing and unity to the movement, and not dwell on the past.
Corsi continued covering Q, but warned that the person posting presently, was not the original Q. On May 22nd, 2018, Q posted a picture almost identical to the one that was posted on November 9th during President Trump’s trip to Asia. The two images seemed to be taken just seconds apart.
An anon picked up on the significance of the new post, saying that the nearly identical image proved that the person posting in November of 2017 was still posting in May of 2018:
The nearly identical photo to the one posted on November 9th (11.9) was prepared in advance because Q knew that at some point, it would be necessary to reconfirm his identity. He anticipated a claim that his board would be taken over by a bad actor. A set of images had been prepared to establish his credibility and, later, re-establish it after the claim had been made.
The issue of Q decoders making money has been a source of much debate. The post on April 29th, “Be careful who you are following. Some are profiting off this movement” seemed to be a prohibition against making money. After Corsi turned against Q, many of us realized that message was used as bait to get Corsi and InfoWars to react. Nevertheless, many people still believe Q established a code of conduct prohibiting monetization.
I’ve been attacked often because I sell books and receive donations. After Roseanne Barr posted some of my Q videos on Twitter, an anon called me a “paytriot,”—someone who only follows Q to make money. Another anon replied, saying that the main issue Q was concerned with was not making money, but intentionally misleading people and usurping leadership of the movement. Q confirmed the anon’s analysis by reposting it on the board.