A New Theory About Counting the Electoral College Votes
I wasn’t going to post another message before January 6th, the day electoral votes are counted during a joint session of Congress. I was content to stand on my previous assessment, but recent statements made by Vice-President Pence have made me think that perhaps a different plan may be in the works.
The President has invited his supporters to come to Washington DC on the 6th. It’s hard for me to imagine him wanting his base to witness the most humiliating defeat of his career. The invitation for his supporters to come to Washington suggests that he has some plan in place to pull out a victory. Based on the assumption he has such a plan, here is my current thinking.
At present, about a dozen GOP Senators have said they plan to challenge the votes of some electors on January 6th. The majority of Republican Senators claim they haven’t seen evidence of fraud so objections to electoral votes are not warranted.
Senior Trump campaign advisor Jason Miller said the campaign intends to present specific evidence of election fraud at the joint session of Congress. At a rally in Georgia today, Mike Pence confirmed that evidence of election fraud will be presented to Congress.
In a tweet this morning, Matt Braynard said his evidence has been submitted to Congress for consideration.
Update:
– VIP findings have been submitted as part of the package for consideration by the US Congress and Senate.
— Matt Braynard (@MattBraynard) January 4, 2021
It’s clear that the President’s plan is to present evidence of election fraud to Congress and ask them to act on it. Once they’re confronted with evidence (knowing that the world is watching), will GOP Senators change their minds?
The optics of VP Pence rejecting electors prior to allowing objections (as I proposed in my previous post) are horrible. Trump would forever be accused of forcing his Vice-President to steal the election. Rather than having Pence reject electoral votes at the outset of the joint session, what if the plan is to force GOP Senators to admit that fraud happened and compel them to oppose the votes of electors? That approach would take the responsibility off Pence and put it on the Senate.
I realize that this scenario assumes that unreliable people will do the right thing, but when evidence of election fraud was presented to the Georgia Senate Judiciary Committee last week, it compelled the committee (Democrats and Republicans alike) to unanimously vote in favor of an audit of Fulton County’s absentee ballots.
In a country with a free press, you would know:
1. The Georgia Senate Judiciary Committee issued a report demonstrating the vote was stolen from @realDonaldTrump.
2. The vote was unanimous and BIPARTISAN to audit Fulton County’s Absentee ballots.
3. And to de-certify Biden.
— Rudy W. Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) December 31, 2020
This scenario does not take into account the actions of the Democrat-controlled House, but depending on how you interpret the Electoral Count Act, it would be possible to reject the votes of electors with the agreement of only one chamber of Congress. Mike Pence would be the one to make that determination.
Politicians tend to look out for themselves. There is a selfish reason why GOP Senators might reject electoral votes. If they did, they could take credit for exposing election fraud and act like they heroically saved Trump.
It’s worth noting that the President is currently trying to get Republican Senators to object to electoral votes. This seems to be another hint at the plan for the 6th.
The “Surrender Caucus” within the Republican Party will go down in infamy as weak and ineffective “guardians” of our Nation, who were willing to accept the certification of fraudulent presidential numbers!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 4, 2021
This theory seems more in line with statements Pence and the President have made recently. I’m not making a prediction about what will happen on the 6th. I’m only providing possible scenarios based on my analysis of the law, historical precedent, and statements made by those involved in the process.
As always, please keep the President and his staff in prayer.
January 5th Update:
I’ve had a lot of dreams about the election in the last two months. In summary, the dreams have symbolically portrayed a long process that delivered a good outcome. Although I have not plainly seen a Trump victory, I interpreted the dreams as illustrating that idea. This morning I had another dream where I observed a group of people who were set in their ways and would not stray from their traditions and beliefs. I’ve interpreted that dream to represent the view of GOP Senators toward election fraud and the idea that they have a responsibility to intervene. I don’t think the Senate will listen to evidence of fraud or accept their responsibility to correct the outcome.
Interestingly, the President tweeted this morning a warning that Vice-President Mike Pence is willing and able to unilaterally reject the electoral votes of contested states.
The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 5, 2021
The justification for Pence rejecting electoral votes is explained in my previous post, Will Trump Play the Pence Card.
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I trust President Trump to know every move in advance… Perhaps Pence will do the right thing for President Trump and then retire in hopes not to be indicted for treasonous acts… IDK… Pence has sounded good the last few days but I do not trust him… Maybe he REPENTED and is listening to THE VOICE of GOD. President Trump is GOD’S Choice! Praying fervently for President trump and the Patriots headed for D.C….
“But THE LORD is faithful, who will establish you and guard you from the evil one.” ~ 2 Thessalonians 3:3
“‘No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of THE LORD, And their righteousness is from ME,’ Says THE LORD.” ~ Isaiah 54:17
Praying The Constitution to be followed… “Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for THE LORD’S sake, whether to the king as supreme, ” ~ 2 Peter 2:13
Praying that lawful actions seeking truthful results would be taken… “He who speaks truth declares righteousness,
But a false witness, deceit. ” ~ Proverbs 2:17
Praying for strength and wisdom for the President and his advisors… “Where there is no counsel, the people fall;
But in the multitude of counselors there is safety.” ~ Proverbs 11:14
Praying for courage for all involved to do what is right and necessary to the protection of our nation and voting system…
“by THE WORD of TRUTH, by THE POWER of GOD, by The Armor of Righteousness on the right hand and on the left, ” ~ 2 Corinthians 6:7
Thank you Praying Medic and GOD bless you and your precious family!!!
Dave and Denise, you have worked tirelessly to get us the truth. Thank you! Meredith, I don’t know God’s plan either, but I believe and trust in Him to accomplish what no man can. I don’t know Trump’s plan, but I’m sure he has one and that it will be great because he is truly a genius strategist. My problem is, I thought we were told by Q to trust the Plan of brilliant military strategists? Is all this that we’re seeing now in line with what we heard from Q?
It’s time to ask seriously now: Is the imperative for Western Civilization not Executive Order 13848?
The Presidents tweet regarding the Republican “Surrender Caucus says they will go down in infamy as weak and ineffective “guardians” caught my eye as one Q post with coming attractions on 4, 5 and 6, with today being the 4th, the coming attractions flyer ad for the 4th was titled Guardians and Pedophiles. Do you remember that post? If so, the “Guardians were in parentheses in the Presidents tweet. I wonder if he’s telling us something?
There’s been no doubt in my mind that our brilliant President had a plan that was worth inviting us to DC to celebrate with him. I also believe he will present the most undeniable fraud evidence yet. Looking forward to Wednesday. Thank you Dave! ❤️? To you and Denise.
If Pence does get arrested than I believe Trump will reveal JFK as the new VP.
Don’t bet on either one happening.
Dave, I’m befuddled by all these folks who seem to think JFK Jr is still alive.
I recall Q’s answer during an AMA, when asked if Jr was alive. Q replied, unambiguously, “No.”
People can be incredibly hard-headed. Some of those people are shills.
I don’t presume to know God’s plan. We all know that many events come to be that we see as harmful and dangerous and wrong, but we also know that it is ALL God’s plan. As for Trump’s plan, I’m guessing he’s wanting lots of supporters there on Jan 6 regardless of the outcome. On the hopeful side, it puts added pressure on Republican Senators hesitant to reverse the certified votes. But if things go against him as seems likely at this point, I don’t think he will feel humiliated. I think he will re-state his conviction that the election was stolen and, with that large crowd to support him, begin a new role as leader of the opposition to the Biden Administration and still leader of the Republican Party. The tradition is for losing candidates to fade into the woodwork, but nobody sees President Trump doing that!
Dave-this latest article is easily understood-in plain language-you are The Best. ThankYou from Canada. SallyWong
Should we be worried about the new election rules Congress just instituted? https://www.theepochtimes.com/congress-approves-rules-regulating-jan-6-electoral-vote-count_3642381.html
Rules can easily be overlooked. The constitution is supreme.
Thank you so much, Dave. And thank you a thousand times over for all you do on Twitter, as well as your insightful videos, books!
There is some extra thought floating around from Dave @ X22 and others that there is a final plan if congress fails to act. It is not Trumps preferred plan as he wants everyone to do the right thing. But he and the Military are not going to allow a corrupt politician x 2 to become POTUS and destroy the USA and therefore the world. Here’s hoping that all involved do the right thing however, there is no way Biden will be POTUS as his executive order in 2018 is this last final plan. This has been a brilliant strategy from Q and all from the outset (dare I say from even as far back as 2012). There is no way the USA can be defeated to quote Trump from many years ago.
Creature, is that you?
Also – We have not heard a single thing from anyone about what the military intel agencies ACTUALLY have. No bragging, no hints, other than vague references to “the Kraken”, wild stories about the server raid, etc. Everything up to this point could be misdirection while the manuever the B2 over the target and loose the MOAB.
I have had my doubts about Pence ever since he received one of the “cards” at the GHW Bush funeral along with the other obvious deep state players. But, as PM would say, what if those optics were part of the plan? Was Pence’s loyalty cast in doubt on purpose to throw off the deep state players?
Dave, I hope, and pray, that you are correct in that Pence has to let members of Congress object before he can speak out. The last four years has been one very long guessing game and many of us are getting weary of it. January 6 has us all on pins and needles! Our country will cease to exist under Biden/Harris and we can not let that stand.
I believe you are 100% correct. I’ll also add that once they are forced to act, looks like (maybe) that’ll be the 10 day audit commission, like they did in the 1870’s. Surely they would get the Kracken data etc. we’re not (yet) allowed to see, but surely is there. They’ve played this brilliantly! Can you imagine what Mitch McConnell etc must be thinking now that your astute observation becomes clear to them. They must be crapping their pants.
Hi Dave – I’ve appreciated your thoughts along this arduous and circuitous journey. Feels a little like Frodo and Samwise at the base of Mount Doom prior to the victory that was yet ahead of them.
I’ve had a gnawing thought – likely due to not being up on the rules for the joint session of Congress where EC votes are tallied or objected to. Couldn’t the D’s – out of spite – object to every state’s electors that Pres. Trump won – even though there isn’t a dueling slate of electors or any evidence of election fraud – just to bog down the process big-time so Jan 20 comes and the Wicked Witch of the West becomes acting POTUS? That is a nightmare scenario to me.
Blessings in abundance,
Tom
Dear Dave and Denise,
Thank you very much for your update and encouraging analysis.
You may find the following encouraging if you happen not to know about it:
Digital ID systems inventor Jovan Pulitzer testified at a Georgia State Senate subcommittee hearing on Dec. 30, 2020.
Pulitzer suggested all absentee ballots in the state of Georgia be forensically examined and fraudulent ones identified in just a matter of hours. He called on state officials to allow the examination.
One of the county’s polling managers previously told state lawmakers that she opened a box of mail-in ballots with a batch of 110 that were “pristine” and not folded, indicating that they were never put in secrecy envelopes, as is required.
Pulitzer said that he and his team can detect if that’s the case.
Security camera footage from election night shows that in Fulton County, what appears to be tens of thousands of ballots were counted in the absence of party or state monitors. The video seems to show that election workers scanned the same batches of ballots repeatedly. This could be a legitimate action when there’s a scanning error in the batch, such as when the ballots get jammed in the scanner.
In that scenario, the workers are supposed to discard the whole batch of scans and scan the ballots again, but the video quality makes it hard to discern if that was the case in each instance. Pulitzer said that he and his team could detect if that was the case as well.
“We would be able to tell if they were folded, if they were counterfeit, whether they were filled out by a human hand, whether they were printed by a machine, whether they were batch-fed continually over and over, we can detect every bit of that,” he testified.
The ballot paper itself, when scanned, becomes a piece of code, he explained. Every time the paper is physically handled, such as folded or written upon, the code would change and the change can be detected.
The examination he proposed can be done expediently, he said.
“All of these problems that you’ve heard today can be corrected and detected now by the simplest of things. It takes you days or weeks to recount votes. Give me these 500,000 ballots, we’ll have them done in two hours,” he said, apparently referring to the 528,777 ballots cast in Fulton.
About 5 million ballots were cast statewide.
Pulitzer criticized state authorities for refusing to allow a full-scale forensic audit.
“This is the historical artifact of a voter. And states are telling voters, ‘You have no right to that,’” he said.
“The very voter that pays your salary, that paid for that ballot, that paid for that piece of paper, and paid for the machine that you’re running it in. And so those people that pay your salary, that you work for, and do this for, you’re telling them, ‘You can’t look at them.’ *
“That is both unacceptable and un-American.” ———————
Dear Dave and Denise,
Thank you for your update and encouraging analysis. In case you don’t happen to know, you should find the info interesting.
Digital ID systems inventor Jovan Pulitzer testified at a Georgia State Senate subcommittee hearing on Dec. 30, 2020.
Pulitzer suggested all absentee ballots in the state of Georgia be forensically examined and fraudulent ones identified in just a matter of hours. He called on state officials to allow the examination.
One of the county’s polling managers previously told state lawmakers that she opened a box of mail-in ballots with a batch of 110 that were “pristine” and not folded, indicating that they were never put in secrecy envelopes, as is required.
Pulitzer said that he and his team can detect if that’s the case.
Security camera footage from election night shows that in Fulton County, what appears to be tens of thousands of ballots were counted in the absence of party or state monitors. The video seems to show that election workers scanned the same batches of ballots repeatedly. This could be a legitimate action when there’s a scanning error in the batch, such as when the ballots get jammed in the scanner.
In that scenario, the workers are supposed to discard the whole batch of scans and scan the ballots again, but the video quality makes it hard to discern if that was the case in each instance. Pulitzer said that he and his team could detect if that was the case as well.
“We would be able to tell if they were folded, if they were counterfeit, whether they were filled out by a human hand, whether they were printed by a machine, whether they were batch-fed continually over and over, we can detect every bit of that,” he testified.
The ballot paper itself, when scanned, becomes a piece of code, he explained. Every time the paper is physically handled, such as folded or written upon, the code would change and the change can be detected.
The examination he proposed can be done expediently, he said.
“All of these problems that you’ve heard today can be corrected and detected now by the simplest of things. It takes you days or weeks to recount votes. Give me these 500,000 ballots, we’ll have them done in two hours,” he said, apparently referring to the 528,777 ballots cast in Fulton.
About 5 million ballots were cast statewide.
Pulitzer criticized state authorities for refusing to allow a full-scale forensic audit.
*“This is the historical artifact of a voter. And states are telling voters, ‘You have no right to that,’” he said.
“The very voter that pays your salary, that paid for that ballot, that paid for that piece of paper, and paid for the machine that you’re running it in. And so those people that pay your salary, that you work for, and do this for, you’re telling them, ‘You can’t look at them.’ *
“That is both unacceptable and un-American.” ———————
Thank you for posting. I was getting anxious when you went so long without posting. What about Q? I heard that he will not be posting as againI, Is this true?
Makes sense. But when it comes right down to it, a lot of us feel that God is mercifully intervening on our behalf at this time in history, and that whatever happens will be because we trusted, listened and prayed for an awakening, and did OUR PART by acting civilly, PRAYERFULLY, and responsibly in the natural affairs of man.
Dear DAVE;
The ONLY almost sure fire way to give Pence a path as President of the Senate, to decertify States corrupted Electoral votes, IS FOR THE NEW “STATE” REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURES TO MEET, VOTE IN SUFFICIENT NUMBERS WITHIN THEIR HOUSES SHOW A MAJORITY OVER DEMOCRATS, TO DECERTIFY THE AREADY SUBMITTED ELECTORS BY THEIR GOVERNORS.
I Read that the Trump Lawyers already had the Republican Electors in the battleground states Submit Their own Vote by the December Deadline. HOWEVER, that is USELESS UNLESS their State Legislators Vote to certify them instead.
The State Legislators were specifically given the absolute POWER AND AUTHORITY by the U.S. Constitution TO NAME THE ELECTORS FOR “PRESIDENT OF THE USA” and No Governor, No Court, No State Constitution or Law, No law officer, NO State schedule or Closed Building, No Pandemic has the authority to Supersede the Constitution. Lawyers who are U.S. Constitution Experts, and who are members of the Bar who can argue in front of SCOTUS HAVE TOLD THEM SO OVER AND OVER…. YET THEY IGNORE THEM using the same old excuses.
PENCE in my opinion Is PRESSURING THESE LEGISLATURES TO STEP UP AND DO THEIR DARN JOB.
IN PA the leadership of the PA Republican STATE legislature could only Muster the courage 6 weeks after the Election to Write a Letter to Congress asking THEM to decertify in their place. ONLY 8 out of 28 Republican Senators & 56 out of 111 Republican Representatives signed the letter, a far cry from a majority WHICH REPUBLICANS STRONGLY CONTROL in Both PA Houses.
IF A STATE LEGISLATURE HAS THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY RE ITS ELECTORS FOR PRESIDENT, ONCE THEY MAKE IT OFFICIAL VP PENCE HAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT TO ACCEPT THEIR DECISION.
The US CONGRESS , ON THE OTHER HAND, DOES NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY UNLESS THE REPUBLICAN SENATE and the PELOSI LED HOUSE BOTH AGREE. THEY ALSO COULD HAVE THE COURTS INTERFERE TO RUN OUT THE CLOCK.
PENCE COULD BE FORCED TO ABIDE BY THE “ELECTORAL COURT ACT of 1887” Which in the event it has not been Used could be deemed Unconstitutionally restricting his authority. BUT will the court hear or rule on it before Inauguration?
The ONLY thing Pence might have the authority to do is DELAY THE COUNT to present and Investigate evidence, INCLUDING FORENSIC AUDITS of Machines and ballots States are denying. IT PUTS THE DIRTY FACTS IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, PRESS, AND POLITICIANS Who choose to remain ignorant.
IT ALSO GIVES STATE LEGISLATURES MORE TIME TO ACT.
FINALLY IT MAY PERMIT PENCE TO “INTERPRET” HIS LEGAL OPTIONS SO CLOSE TO THE FINAL VOTE IT FORCES CONGRESS TO MAKE ( One Vote per state) There is no TIME for Courts to interfere.
Why did you say “if”?
Praying Medic
@prayingmedic
If Trump is re-elected, he will without question hold more rallies. But since they won’t be rallies for his re-election, they will apparebtly be rallies to unseat every RINO who opposed him.
The GOP had better chose wisely on the 6th.
No one knows the future except God.
“… rallies to unseat every RINO who opposed…” **The American People**
At this point I don’t care how this is done. It’s too important for Trump to lose in any fashion. I am even willing to accept military action. Military action isn’t what I want but if its the only way then it becomes a necessity. If Biden takes office we jump over socialism and go directly to a communism.
Tom – I do understand your fear for the future of our nation under Biden, but still, you should “care how this is done”. As I’ve written before and will keep repeating as necessary – the Constitution prohibits the Military from involving itself in domestic politics. That would turn us into a police state and demolish the freedoms guaranteed to us citizens under the Constitution. What is a police state? It is one where citizen-elected officials and the courts have no real power, and instead whoever controls the military controls the nation. It is what our Founding Fathers most feared. You might be okay with that today if Trump is giving the orders to the Military, but who will give the orders after Trump? That is NOT the USA! Just days ago EVERY living former Secretary of Defense, including the two appointed by President Trump, signed a public letter saying just that.
We must resist the strong temptation to take matters in our own hands or to ask the Military to do so for us. Trust in the Constitution and trust in God. It was part of his plan that Obama be President for a time and it might be his plan for Biden to be President for a time. I believe our nation is exceptional and it will continue to be. So breathe and pray and trust that what must be will be.
the military take this oath : I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Sure seem to be some foreign and domestic enemies that we need defending from to me…….
You’re absolutely right! Q, is military intelligence. I’m guessing that the 2 sec of defense that were under Trump, are former, for a good reason..
Amen to your comment that Only God knows the future.
I have a legal question for you.
Can elected government officials be charged with treason or other felony counts if they knowingly certify fraudulent votes?
Treason would not be the appropriate charge.
What could be an appropriate charge for knowingly certifying fraudulent data?
Defend the constitution against enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC
Will, I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your comment. Are you saying that is what happened of that is what should have happened. Thanks, I’m really trying to make some sense of what has happened so I can explain it to an 18 year old who has been watching things happen that make no sense.
No matter what happens GOD IS IN CONTROL and we have to except that and believe that also continue praying and pray for the lost.
I have seen too much proof including proof of the cheating Dominion servers. This is feeling similar to the Warren Report and the 9/11 report. Did Barr commit treason? Pence has declared that he cannot and will not decertify any electors. He also declared that congress would hear evidence of cheating. BEST CHANCE RIGHT NOW IS FOR POSTPONEMENT OF INAUGURATION DATE. WE NEED A NATIONAL HEARING.
Pence has a history of cowardice so his actions today were not a surprise. He had received requests from Arizona legislators and Pennsylvania legislators YESTERDAY requesting that he allow them time and NOT do what he did today. It does surprise me that Pence ignored these state legislators. Even worse and completely despicable is that Pence chose to do it before Trump’s speech was over. The crowd ALL saw the tweets on their phones. Pence not only insulted President Trump but 80k or more Americans. Pence can now add TRAITOR to the list of Pence’s flaws. He has ZERO integrity.
Pence is running the coup.
So it seems. Neon Revolt has published a 3 part article on the subject of Pence. Pence was never on our side. He proved that while Governor of Indiana when he refused to sign the protection bill sent to him by the legislature, leaving Christians unprotected from the extreme left and LTBQ bullies.
STAND YOUR GROUND PATRIOTS!!! GOD is on The Throne!!!
“‘Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your GOD. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with MY righteous right hand.’ ~ Isaiah 41:10
“Say to those who are fearful-hearted, ‘Be strong, do not fear! Behold, your GOD will come with vengeance, With the recompense of GOD; HE will come and save you.'” ~ Isaiah 35:4
“HE uncovers deep things out of darkness, And brings the shadow of death to light. ” ~ Job 12:22
“There is no darkness nor shadow of death where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves.” ~ Job 34:22
” To give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death, To guide our feet into the way of peace.” ~ Luke 1:79
“Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from THE FATHER of LIGHTS, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning. ” ~ James 1:16 -17
I still have faith in Trump and pray I am not wrong. Dave, Thank You for what you do. You are one of my go to sources. I’m currently in FB jail, so its tough to not be able to engage against the false narrative that is beinfg pushed about what happened at the Capital.
Dave…. Pence appears to be deep-state. Antifa agitators insinuated themselves into the peaceful Trump crowd who are now being framed as rioting thugs. The election has been certified for Biden (although we know, illegitimately). Kelly Loeffler, within 24-hours of pledging her support for OBJECTION while standing right next to POTUS, withdrew hers. What now?
If it were me, I would make it seem like I was engaging the DS in their tech/social arena so as to keep them focusing their pride there. Then I would release the indictments after my social accounts were down so I couldn’t address anything. Then I would apply the screws to my arrested ones. But that’s just me:)
The PM is usually spot on, but in this case he was not. However, few saw in advance the events which unfolded. How could we know the president would fold like a cheap suit and just give up and walk away? It was a very sad day for America and a tragic day for all conservatives who now have targets on their backs. I am dismayed by what happened and angry the president took no action to stop it. I’m not sure what will happen next, but if Biden’s announced plans are true, our Republic teeters on the precipice of the abyss, ready to fall. How tragic and sad these times are. Woe is us, woe is us.
I do know I will never vote for another Republican. What a worthless party they have become. Now that we know the democrats are masters at stealing elections, I’m not even sure I will vote again. I keep hoping someone in power will step up and stop this madness, but my hopes are shrinking daily.
Father, we lift up the arms of our President as he fights this battle on our behalf. We lift up the arms of those who fast & pray, like the people of Esther’s time. We lift them up in our prayers as they fight this most significant battle. Bless them, Lord, as they fight. We honor them and support them. Hear our prayers, Lord, and heal our land. Stop this flood of evil. Deliver us from evil. God bless America. In Jesus’ name, Amen.