I respectfully disagree, Dave, on one aspect. When the Q team drew up these plans years ago to defeat DS, I don’t see how it is possible for them to rely on state audits to move to the next phase. That would have been far too risky. The state audits may be done to show the public but I believe the Patriots already have irrefutable evidence by capturing network traffic/packets from the voting machines among other evidence. I believe the military will take action with or without state audits based on what they already have.
And how is the public going to get the info it needs? The MSM? Sure there’s the alternate media, but they have already spread the word about the stolen election. Audit results are going to suddenly make everyone see that the election was stolen, despite MSM’s refusal to spread that news?
What will the story be when the audits are done, the information is out and the military still doesn’t do anything? If that’s the case it it rolls around to Jan 1, 2022, what will be said? That the military is still waiting and is about to re-install Trump any day now?
My impression is that the military will provide the information to the public at the right time.
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Stephen
June 15, 2021 - 11:03 pm
Larry W, what executive order is it? Where can I find it? Please tell me it isn’t some secret executive order that you’re sure exists but you can provide no proof of it. Also, you say that Trump could then be recogized as president “per the Constitution.” How is it that an executive order can override the Constitution? The Constitution doesn’t say anything about fraud vitiating an election or the military re-installing who they think is the rightful winner of an election.
I’m glad you put a deadline on it. New inauguraiton by November of this year. And new elections for every other office. I wonder what you’ll say if this doesn’t actually happen. Your certainty about this is…odd, given how so many promises have been made about the future that haven’t happened. But this time it’s going to happen for real, right? Ok, by November. I’m so excited!
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mellyrn
June 18, 2021 - 3:27 pm
Stephen, it’s EO 13848, signed by Trump in September of 2018. And Obama signed a similar one in 2015, EO 13694.
Thank you for the update! I’ve learned to stay calm and even keeled when I hear different news happenings because of you all. I might have woke up my neighbors laughing a few times with you.
Why do you and Greg think that Jason Miller’s recent jump to CEO of a tech company means they are just now starting on a social media platform? I suspect Trump’s platform has been in the works for awhile now. He plays his cards close to the vest, and he is a 4D Chess Master, after all.
We cannot get rid of voting machines, it takes too long to tabulate without them. However, we can make them much more transparent. For instance, the machine that scans the ballots could be restricted to only scanning ballots and not tabulating results. The machine could save scan records for the ballots and make them available to anyone requesting them. Then anyone with a spreadsheet could do their own tabulation.
The key to the process it to remove flexibility from the machines and make them very simple. Flexibility and complexity mean they are easier to manipulate.
But not November! I am assured that Biden will be out and Trump will be back in the White House by November, and there will be new elections, run by the military, for every other office, meaning that true Patriot MAGA Republicans will control the House, Senate and I’m sure everything else. We’ve been waiting and worried, but by November literally everything will change and the whole Democrat pedo-ring will be shut down and brought to justice. Our long wait will soon be over!
Cleaned? Executive orders don’t just disappear. There’s a record of them. They don’t just evaporate into the ether when a new president takes office. Even if they are overridden or made moot by Congressional action or an EO of the new president, a record of all EO’s exists.
It’s great that everything you write about exists. I’m just asking for support for your claims. I hope everything you are saying is true, but I don’t want to just believe everything I read from random internet commenters. I’m asking for the the evidence that backs up what you say. If I told you that I knew that Biden was definitely going to execute Trump in July, wouldn’t you want some facts to back that up before you believe it? I’m merely asking for that from you. Seems like I’m not asking for a lot here.
I’m anxiously awaiting this military takeover, Trump’s re-installation and the new military-run election. It’s definitely, definitely going to happen by November. Definitely.
Thank you, I appreciate it. But, regardless, no executive order can override the constitution and create new rules for ignoring elections, ousting a sitting president, installing a new president and making new elections, negating the results of every other election. The Constitution’s only process for ousting a sitting president is impeachment. How are we going to get around that? An executive order isn’t enough.
I agree with PM that a Constitutional crisis is unavoidable. There is no Constitutional remedy or limit. Impeachment is meant to remove an elected President. If fraud is proven, Biden was not elected and is not a sitting President. Certification based on fraud is no more valid than a contract based on false information. Everything falls apart. Attempts to push impeachment as the only solution to remove Biden are bound to be challenged as will the validity of certification based on fraud.
PM, like many people, I spent 2020 praying for answers as to what was happening to us. I saw your suggestion to read CS Lewis’s Space Trilogy. I’ve learned to recognize God’s winks in my life so I started reading it in September 2020. I finished two weeks after the election. I got my answers.
Thank you PM and Denise, God Bless. Prayers upon prayers.
Linda R.
Larry W, Art. 2, Sec. 4 is about impeachment and it sets forth the process for that. A military takeover and removal of the sitting president is not consistent with Art. 2, Sec. 4 or any other part of the Constitution. So no, this cannot be done Constitutionally. It would have to be an extra-Constitutional coup. If that’s what you want, fine, but don’t pretend that it follows the Constitution.
The idea of DJT returning and the msm crumbling with justice for all to see and choose to accept as being real… This would be a sovereign reprieve from God, and afford everyone the opportunity to recognize how close to the brink of His wrath this nation is… However, this nation & its church system, is taking no responsibility for everything that it has loosed… The church system, in fact, would take this reprieve as a victory over Satan, who himself, through man, stands at the pulpit of the church system, all systems of men, in this country. … In the wash we’ve aborted more babies in this land than Stalin & Hitler & other beastmen have slaughtered lives combined. We, the body of Christ, bind and loose, and we have loosed this cabal that has started war after war, poisoned the air, food, water, airwaves, medicines… everything. … And this church system has rejected every call to repent, and plea from Jesus to allow His love, aka His Holy Spirit, to refine and prepare His bride, His church, so that it consequently sets the world in order, heals it, and welcomes His actual return to her… He returns first through His people, then He Himself returns. The implication regarding the white house is that we will be fortunate if DJT returns, because it will buy us a bit more time to spiritually prepare pressing into Jesus individually… This church system takes no responsibility for has occurred with this election, when in fact the election proves how near this America sits to a total takeover by the forces of Hell. What does this mean? it means what we are experiencing with this election and covid etc etc is God’s judgement on this land… We have enter His judgement, and the deep state & ultimately foreign invaders are the instruments of His wrath… Don’t civil war vs the government, and don’t fight invading armies, for He is using them to ultimately obliterate every system if man in this country… Yes, avoid them, fight them to escape them if need be, He will keep you in doing so if you are in Him. … After all systems of man in this land are destroyed, God will raise up His church from the ashes and ruins of America, and His church & army will expel the foreign occupiers… Then His plan moves forward ultimately towards victory at Armageddon one day. See a two hour video by chuck Youngbrandt on this matter… It’s on YouTube. All see Dimitru Dudiman, Henry Gruver…
#13848: Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election
See: EO 13694 of 4/1/2015, EO 13757 of 12/28/2016, Proc. 8693 of 7/24/2011
Thank you for the citation. I just read EO 13848. It does not do what Larry W says it does. It does not “state that any fraud, foreign or domestic found in a State during a Federal election that changes a clear outcome to the other candidate will cause the entire election in US to be negated down ballots and results thrown out.” It isn’t about that and doesn’t say that. As the title would suggest, it deals with foreing interference in elections and the sanctions against that foreign power that would follow. It doesn’t talk at all about negating an election. But this was a 2018 EO from Trump. Larry W referenced a 2020 EO. I’m still awaiting from him a link to this EO with the language he claimed.
Larry W, thanks for looking into this and I understand that you don’t have every citation at the tip of your fingers. I appreciate you looking things up and sharing them when you can.
While Art. 2, Sec 4 does not talk about Congress impeaching, other parts of the Constitution do. Art. 1, Sec 2, Clause 5 gives the HOR sole power of impeachment. Art. 1, Sec 3, Clauses 6&7 gives the Senate sole power to try impeachments. Those latter clauses also discuss who presides, the vote necessary to remove from office, etc.
I would like to see some evidence that the Insurrection Act was signed. Trump hasn’t said that he signed it. There’s nothing in the official record that shows that it was signed. Regardless, it doesn’t give the military the power to unseat a sitting president and install someone else.
Those three words in Throckmorton do not in and of themselves give anyone the power to undo an election. Theoretically, SCOTUS could do that, but it would take the full legal process. It’s not like the military could just declare, “Throckmorton!” and then legally and Constitutionally re-install Trump as president.
Now, by the use of force, the military could act outside the law and outside the Constitution and just force whatever they want. But it wouldn’t be legal and it wouldn’t be Constitutional.
I’m not nitpicking anything. I’m responding to your words as written. Things can be done, but they are neither legal nor Constitutional (according to both the language of the Constitution and SCOTUS precedent). I’m not saying the military takeover won’t happen, but if it does, it will not be pursuant to U.S. law or the Constitution. and, for the record, I’ve grown increasingly skeptical that the big military takeover and re-installation of Trump will happen. Ditto the rounding up of the pedo-ring with mass arrests, trials and executions. It’s been promised for years and it just hasn’t happened. I have blind faith in God. I don’t have blind faith in people doing the right thing. As we’ve seen through the entirety of human history, people very often do not do the right thing, despite the existence of God. It seems like many people are saying that all of these things we want to happen will definitely happen because God is in control. Of course He is in control, but He doesn’t prevent bad things from happening and ensure just outcomes. True justice happens in the afterlife. Lots and lots of injustice happens on earth. I don’t have blind faith that this will suddenly stop.
Thank you PM for everything. I just wanted to pray for all of us that we don’t hurt one another. I think we are all fighting for good and against the wickedness that has attacked us personally and collectively. Father, touch every heart with forgiveness and direct our attention to you. Show each of us what our assignment is, and direct our every thought, word, or deed. We stand together and resist the devil. He will flee. God be with us. IJN, Amen.
Thanks Greg and Dave! Great advice today to look at the big picture. God Bless
Love to listen to you! Happy Birthday Donald Trump!
Anytime democrats get elected it is a very good bet that there was democrat voter fraud.
I agree. I think Republicans have won every election in the history of this country!
I respectfully disagree, Dave, on one aspect. When the Q team drew up these plans years ago to defeat DS, I don’t see how it is possible for them to rely on state audits to move to the next phase. That would have been far too risky. The state audits may be done to show the public but I believe the Patriots already have irrefutable evidence by capturing network traffic/packets from the voting machines among other evidence. I believe the military will take action with or without state audits based on what they already have.
The military has the info it needs. The public does not. Optics matter.
And how is the public going to get the info it needs? The MSM? Sure there’s the alternate media, but they have already spread the word about the stolen election. Audit results are going to suddenly make everyone see that the election was stolen, despite MSM’s refusal to spread that news?
What will the story be when the audits are done, the information is out and the military still doesn’t do anything? If that’s the case it it rolls around to Jan 1, 2022, what will be said? That the military is still waiting and is about to re-install Trump any day now?
My impression is that the military will provide the information to the public at the right time.
Larry W, what executive order is it? Where can I find it? Please tell me it isn’t some secret executive order that you’re sure exists but you can provide no proof of it. Also, you say that Trump could then be recogized as president “per the Constitution.” How is it that an executive order can override the Constitution? The Constitution doesn’t say anything about fraud vitiating an election or the military re-installing who they think is the rightful winner of an election.
I’m glad you put a deadline on it. New inauguraiton by November of this year. And new elections for every other office. I wonder what you’ll say if this doesn’t actually happen. Your certainty about this is…odd, given how so many promises have been made about the future that haven’t happened. But this time it’s going to happen for real, right? Ok, by November. I’m so excited!
Stephen, it’s EO 13848, signed by Trump in September of 2018. And Obama signed a similar one in 2015, EO 13694.
Thank you for the update! I’ve learned to stay calm and even keeled when I hear different news happenings because of you all. I might have woke up my neighbors laughing a few times with you.
Why do you and Greg think that Jason Miller’s recent jump to CEO of a tech company means they are just now starting on a social media platform? I suspect Trump’s platform has been in the works for awhile now. He plays his cards close to the vest, and he is a 4D Chess Master, after all.
Your thoughts and discussions are always so calming. It gives me the patience I need every day.
I rarely use CloutHub, way too much CloutHub spam in the Forum view.
We cannot get rid of voting machines, it takes too long to tabulate without them. However, we can make them much more transparent. For instance, the machine that scans the ballots could be restricted to only scanning ballots and not tabulating results. The machine could save scan records for the ballots and make them available to anyone requesting them. Then anyone with a spreadsheet could do their own tabulation.
The key to the process it to remove flexibility from the machines and make them very simple. Flexibility and complexity mean they are easier to manipulate.
Biden will be president in August, September, October, etc
But not November! I am assured that Biden will be out and Trump will be back in the White House by November, and there will be new elections, run by the military, for every other office, meaning that true Patriot MAGA Republicans will control the House, Senate and I’m sure everything else. We’ve been waiting and worried, but by November literally everything will change and the whole Democrat pedo-ring will be shut down and brought to justice. Our long wait will soon be over!
What will you do if it doesn’t happen in November?
Cleaned? Executive orders don’t just disappear. There’s a record of them. They don’t just evaporate into the ether when a new president takes office. Even if they are overridden or made moot by Congressional action or an EO of the new president, a record of all EO’s exists.
It’s great that everything you write about exists. I’m just asking for support for your claims. I hope everything you are saying is true, but I don’t want to just believe everything I read from random internet commenters. I’m asking for the the evidence that backs up what you say. If I told you that I knew that Biden was definitely going to execute Trump in July, wouldn’t you want some facts to back that up before you believe it? I’m merely asking for that from you. Seems like I’m not asking for a lot here.
I’m anxiously awaiting this military takeover, Trump’s re-installation and the new military-run election. It’s definitely, definitely going to happen by November. Definitely.
Thank you, I appreciate it. But, regardless, no executive order can override the constitution and create new rules for ignoring elections, ousting a sitting president, installing a new president and making new elections, negating the results of every other election. The Constitution’s only process for ousting a sitting president is impeachment. How are we going to get around that? An executive order isn’t enough.
I agree with PM that a Constitutional crisis is unavoidable. There is no Constitutional remedy or limit. Impeachment is meant to remove an elected President. If fraud is proven, Biden was not elected and is not a sitting President. Certification based on fraud is no more valid than a contract based on false information. Everything falls apart. Attempts to push impeachment as the only solution to remove Biden are bound to be challenged as will the validity of certification based on fraud.
PM, like many people, I spent 2020 praying for answers as to what was happening to us. I saw your suggestion to read CS Lewis’s Space Trilogy. I’ve learned to recognize God’s winks in my life so I started reading it in September 2020. I finished two weeks after the election. I got my answers.
Thank you PM and Denise, God Bless. Prayers upon prayers.
Linda R.
Larry W, Art. 2, Sec. 4 is about impeachment and it sets forth the process for that. A military takeover and removal of the sitting president is not consistent with Art. 2, Sec. 4 or any other part of the Constitution. So no, this cannot be done Constitutionally. It would have to be an extra-Constitutional coup. If that’s what you want, fine, but don’t pretend that it follows the Constitution.
The idea of DJT returning and the msm crumbling with justice for all to see and choose to accept as being real… This would be a sovereign reprieve from God, and afford everyone the opportunity to recognize how close to the brink of His wrath this nation is… However, this nation & its church system, is taking no responsibility for everything that it has loosed… The church system, in fact, would take this reprieve as a victory over Satan, who himself, through man, stands at the pulpit of the church system, all systems of men, in this country. … In the wash we’ve aborted more babies in this land than Stalin & Hitler & other beastmen have slaughtered lives combined. We, the body of Christ, bind and loose, and we have loosed this cabal that has started war after war, poisoned the air, food, water, airwaves, medicines… everything. … And this church system has rejected every call to repent, and plea from Jesus to allow His love, aka His Holy Spirit, to refine and prepare His bride, His church, so that it consequently sets the world in order, heals it, and welcomes His actual return to her… He returns first through His people, then He Himself returns. The implication regarding the white house is that we will be fortunate if DJT returns, because it will buy us a bit more time to spiritually prepare pressing into Jesus individually… This church system takes no responsibility for has occurred with this election, when in fact the election proves how near this America sits to a total takeover by the forces of Hell. What does this mean? it means what we are experiencing with this election and covid etc etc is God’s judgement on this land… We have enter His judgement, and the deep state & ultimately foreign invaders are the instruments of His wrath… Don’t civil war vs the government, and don’t fight invading armies, for He is using them to ultimately obliterate every system if man in this country… Yes, avoid them, fight them to escape them if need be, He will keep you in doing so if you are in Him. … After all systems of man in this land are destroyed, God will raise up His church from the ashes and ruins of America, and His church & army will expel the foreign occupiers… Then His plan moves forward ultimately towards victory at Armageddon one day. See a two hour video by chuck Youngbrandt on this matter… It’s on YouTube. All see Dimitru Dudiman, Henry Gruver…
Found the executive order on https://qresear.ch/?q=executive+order
#13848: Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election
See: EO 13694 of 4/1/2015, EO 13757 of 12/28/2016, Proc. 8693 of 7/24/2011
signed: 2018-09-12
signed by: Donald Trump
published: 2018-09-14
Thank you for the citation. I just read EO 13848. It does not do what Larry W says it does. It does not “state that any fraud, foreign or domestic found in a State during a Federal election that changes a clear outcome to the other candidate will cause the entire election in US to be negated down ballots and results thrown out.” It isn’t about that and doesn’t say that. As the title would suggest, it deals with foreing interference in elections and the sanctions against that foreign power that would follow. It doesn’t talk at all about negating an election. But this was a 2018 EO from Trump. Larry W referenced a 2020 EO. I’m still awaiting from him a link to this EO with the language he claimed.
Larry W, thanks for looking into this and I understand that you don’t have every citation at the tip of your fingers. I appreciate you looking things up and sharing them when you can.
While Art. 2, Sec 4 does not talk about Congress impeaching, other parts of the Constitution do. Art. 1, Sec 2, Clause 5 gives the HOR sole power of impeachment. Art. 1, Sec 3, Clauses 6&7 gives the Senate sole power to try impeachments. Those latter clauses also discuss who presides, the vote necessary to remove from office, etc.
I would like to see some evidence that the Insurrection Act was signed. Trump hasn’t said that he signed it. There’s nothing in the official record that shows that it was signed. Regardless, it doesn’t give the military the power to unseat a sitting president and install someone else.
Those three words in Throckmorton do not in and of themselves give anyone the power to undo an election. Theoretically, SCOTUS could do that, but it would take the full legal process. It’s not like the military could just declare, “Throckmorton!” and then legally and Constitutionally re-install Trump as president.
Now, by the use of force, the military could act outside the law and outside the Constitution and just force whatever they want. But it wouldn’t be legal and it wouldn’t be Constitutional.
I’m not nitpicking anything. I’m responding to your words as written. Things can be done, but they are neither legal nor Constitutional (according to both the language of the Constitution and SCOTUS precedent). I’m not saying the military takeover won’t happen, but if it does, it will not be pursuant to U.S. law or the Constitution. and, for the record, I’ve grown increasingly skeptical that the big military takeover and re-installation of Trump will happen. Ditto the rounding up of the pedo-ring with mass arrests, trials and executions. It’s been promised for years and it just hasn’t happened. I have blind faith in God. I don’t have blind faith in people doing the right thing. As we’ve seen through the entirety of human history, people very often do not do the right thing, despite the existence of God. It seems like many people are saying that all of these things we want to happen will definitely happen because God is in control. Of course He is in control, but He doesn’t prevent bad things from happening and ensure just outcomes. True justice happens in the afterlife. Lots and lots of injustice happens on earth. I don’t have blind faith that this will suddenly stop.
Thank you PM for everything. I just wanted to pray for all of us that we don’t hurt one another. I think we are all fighting for good and against the wickedness that has attacked us personally and collectively. Father, touch every heart with forgiveness and direct our attention to you. Show each of us what our assignment is, and direct our every thought, word, or deed. We stand together and resist the devil. He will flee. God be with us. IJN, Amen.
Clear, precise and meaningful statement.
Thank you for sharing,
God Bless us all